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Munchvtec

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Re: AdminshipEdit

Hi, thanks for reaching out. After I revamped the wiki for Automata it died down and I got busy with other things I haven't been able to keep up to date with this wiki, being a large contributer to the Hitman wiki instead these days.

That said, if it is somthing of interest to you and others in the community I would be inclined to promote some users to create a better space. I have deleted/banned many users for their comments and I contemplate turning them off and leaving disccussion for blog/discussion pages instead.

I'd be happy to be more active knowing there are contributers and a community around who want to see the wiki in a better shape, I appreciate you raising the concern and i'll see if i can make any changes soon.

ThePureChaos 16:26, January 30, 2019 (UTC)

ThreadEdit

Hello,

Um I'm the one that posted a talk page on https://nier.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:Is_there_anyone_who_is_willing_to_mod_Neir_automata_for_me%3F

Now, I see you have deleted that as it was kind of out of place but, what I want to know is there anyway I could contact the op?

45.123.117.24 08:18, April 6, 2019 (UTC)

Pod ProgramsEdit

Can you change the "pod pragram" to "pod programs" under the nier:automata dropdown? Thanks

Cftcft9090 (talk) 20:19, April 12, 2019 (UTC)

Here to HelpEdit

Hello, I'm The Embraced One or TEO, and I'm the Fandom Wiki Manager for the NIER Wiki as well as an admin on Sekiro and the Hollow Knight Wikis in my free time. I'm here to act as a liaison between you and Fandom Staff and help you and your community. If you ever have any questions or issues related to the Wiki, its features (editing, templates, layouts, etc.), or anything else, feel free to reach out to me on my talk page and I will be happy to help out! The Embraced One (talk) 12:22, June 4, 2019 (UTC)The Embraced One

A Common Mistake of False Information Attempted to Correct and Rejected Edit

I'm the one who changed Kaine's sex to female because her correct sex in Gestalt is female. The argument is often confused because in Kaine's dream it talks about her being picked on by the locals because she has a "disfigured body" but it refers to the fact she's part Shade/Human and no indication in the game actually refers her to being a hermaphodite so the information is incorrect. The problem with the page and often the fanbase is people exagerate information and it becomes falsified. The only indication she has any male connection is that she is possessed by a male shade and in regards she's 100% female in the Gestalt version of the game as well.Chaoscreature (talk) 18:41, January 24, 2020 (UTC)

Replicant Kaine Edit

Hi. I'm gonna address to latest edit of Kaine's page by Chaoscreature. This guy either is ignorant or simply lies to you. It was said many times (including Yoko Taro himself) that replicant Kaine is hermaphrodite (she has female body shape and personality but male genitals). It was clearly mentioned in Witches' Sabbath short story from official book Grimoire Noir (you can even read that story on Kaine's page). According Kainé's Dreams she got harassed by locals for being intersex since early childhood. Possession by shade Tyrann happened much later (when her Grandma died) and only made her reputation worse. Plus, there is info in trivia section about Yoko explaining in interview that original/gestalt Kaine was female but replicant Kaine was born as a hermaphrodite due to an error in the long-running replicant system. Probably western NieR edition got censored but it doesn't change actual canon. Please edit page back and stop listening to clueless people with no proofs.



I'm actually one of the actual people who played through and 100% this game. 90% of the people didn't even play this game and it wasn't even popular outside Japan. They went through wikis and kanon and other junk especially when Automata was announced. A lot of the fans came more around the time of Autromata and even the Drakenguard games were not very popular outside Japan until 3. None of the text written with the Fragment from Witch's Sabath (Grimoire Noir's) posted in the next post was actually written in the game. There is only one actual document in the game about her body in detail and that was Kaine's Dreams. In the interview Yoko hesistated when questioned if she was hermaphadite which the excited person asking the question pestered about and he hesistantly said "sort of." In regards the only male aspect5 of her in the base game was being possessed by a male entity that she wasn't always possessed by. Yoko also never went into more detail the game didn't offer on this like you tried to write about. The bullying is also something you can read in Kaine's Dreams. People really warped this character far beyond it's actual base character and your spouting of calling me a liar doesn't mean I am. I was also writing about Gestalt Kaine where the main character was the father not the brother. I've never played Replicant Nier as it was Japanese but the person who manages the wiki says she was completely female in the Replicant version. Also states they wrote the wiki but didn't play Gestalt. Kaine's Dreams was written with the only real details in the game and only explains the children calling her a "Freak" and that Kaine's response that her body was "not normal" in the text written in the game. The only indications of her body not being normal was she was half shade. According to the person who wrote the wiki in Replicant she was fully human and wasn't half. This is what was in the actual game not the Kanon BS that generally goes around the series. The main characters first response to seeing Kaine was believing she was a Shade also and technically she was half a Shade so this makes sense of his response to her when he tries to fight her. When the town gets overrun by Shades later in the game the only response from the voices in the town were that it was their fault for the Shade onslaught most likely still the fearful response of Kaine being half a Shade. People really have to actually pick up this game and play it instead of creating a fanbase bs theory which happens too much in gaming where it often starts creating false "desired" information in games. Actually the same stuff happened with Automata about 9S and his intentions with 2B (2E). That also lead to a lot of kanon stories also which some even contradicted each other. It's also the problem with the Fragment stories. Not that Automata actually interested me as i felt it couldn't compare to the first Nier story . Chaoscreature (talk) 21:49, March 25, 2020 (UTC)


Fragment from Witches' Sabbath (Grimoire Noir):

She really was possessed. The left half of her body swelled with unfathomable darkness, peculiar lumps circulating within it. It seemed as if another creature, with its own will, separate from the rest of her.

She had noticed me by then, so I did my best not to look disturbed. Repeating ‘all men are brothers’ in my mind like a prayer, I showed her a smile. But her gaze was turned downward. I followed it, my eyes were pulled toward what she held in her demonic left hand. The moment I comprehended what it was, all the hairs on my body were standing on end.

What she held in her hand was… a large, engorged male member… yet it was hers. Upon the swarthy organ there were littered many veins, which I could even clearly see throbbing.

She wasn’t merely possessed. She was of both sexes!

"On nights after I kill shades… …I can’t stop myself…"

Lifting her head to face me in the mist, the woman spoke her first words to me. Her eyes were narrowed, her thin lips opened like a thin cut on her face. Her pupils locked onto me as their target, her left hand began to move up and down furiously. Her breathing became even more ragged, and her upturned eyes began to lose their focus. I knew what was coming next.

"Stop it!"

I cried, averting my eyes from the moment of climax.

"Don’t come near me, you… you monster!"

As I scrambled frenziedly away, her shrieking voice seem to pursue me. It was an ear-splitting wail that seemed to be both laughing and crying.


Interview from Grimoire Noir

Fan-translation of the Grimoire Nier

Kaine’s “Gender”
Depicting the normal workings of humanity

-Since we’re talking about the SS, Natori’s story about Kaine packed quite the punch as well.

Natori: That was partially inspired by Eishima’s SS. Since Nier was like that(laughs), maybe Kaine had that side to her as well. It was normal to her. However, there are people who couldn’t accept that as normal. I wrote it in hopes of depicting those differences.

-Her female side was emphasized in the game, so there might be many users who are surprised at her male side in this SS.

Natori: We didn’t really put much emphasis on her being a hermaphrodite in the game, so I wanted to write about that somewhere. In the game, we only touched on her being bullied as a child.

-Did you intentionally not emphasize the hermaphrodite issue in the game? What were the reasons behind that?

Yokoo: To me, Kaine being a hermaphrodite wasn’t really a point of importance. Since people like that do exist in reality, we just don’t know about them. I was actually surprised that it garnered so much attention after the game was released. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CoolHeaded11 (talkcontribs)

Wiki Manager introductionEdit

Hi Munchvtec, I'm Thatawesomecat, your Wiki Manager here! I'll be acting as a liaison between you and Fandom Staff. For any questions or issues related to editing here, please feel free to reach out to me!

I will be around to check your RecentChanges occasionally, but if you need me, please feel free to send me a message on my talk page here. I look forward to working with you! Thatawesomecat (talk) 17:02, March 25, 2020 (UTC)Thatawesomecat

Infobox transparencyEdit

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Hey, sorry for editing the CSS without discussing first. That being said, does this genuinely look good to you? I just can't get behind it at all. ~ Dan's Friend (talk) 00:58, March 31, 2020 (UTC)

P.S.: I'd like to update the main page with info about the upcoming NieR RepliCant upgrade and also fix some of the broken links on it. That ok with you? ~ Dan's Friend (talk) 01:04, March 31, 2020 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the prompt response! And that's fair enough, I will look for a solution that modifies the tabber instead. :) ~ Dan's Friend (talk) 01:19, March 31, 2020 (UTC)

Hey, I've come up with a solution to the tabber problem. Not sure if it's the best one out there but I can't think of another one atm. It's live on Kainé's page. If you don't like it, feel free to revert it. If you do like it, well... This solution will be a bit more time-consuming to implement, as we will need to add the new templates I made ({{TabberWidthWrapper}} and {{TabberWidthWrapperEnd}}) to all the affected pages. You can help me with that if you're up for it. :) ~ Dan's Friend (talk) 01:45, March 31, 2020 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks for all your help! ~ Dan's Friend (talk) 02:10, March 31, 2020 (UTC)

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